Tomorrow will be the right side, etc. And this picture alone is legitimate proof that Elminster is indeed Gandalf's Ultimate Imitator, something more people need to come to realize. Thank you! Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. Izrador vs Gandalf? September 2014 in Off-Topic. Once in Hell, he was abducted and enslaved by an outcast archdevil known as Nergal, who wished to discover the secret of Mystra's silver fire. The magister saw something in young Elminster and offered to train him in magic. My friends call me Bobby. Azzy Newtype. the Legion of Mortal Godlings. Gandalf wins, definitively! Originally called Olórin, he was accounted as the wisest of the Maiar (with the possible exception of Melian). Gandalf didnt make the horses appear from the river water. Battle for magical supremacy on modern day earth. Nobody knows what he's capable of except in a few brief moments when he starts casting his crazy spells to jam doorways, set the forest ablaze with eldritch fire, duel the balrog, etc. Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. Solamnic Knights vs. Knights of the Holy Grail, Scions (of DragonLance) vs. Scions (of Shannara), Queen of Darkness vs. Crown Prince of Darkness, Blister Vera Jay Nimblefingers vs. Olive Rustkettle, Blister Vera Jay Nimblefingers vs. Paxina Thistleknot, Billee Belladonna Juniper vs. Gollum/Sméagol, Paxina Thistleknot vs. Billee Belladonna Juniper. But every day I will advance one side. Elminster is (maybe was) a Chosen of Mystra.He is magically old old old. In the following years, Mystra has returned to life for a second time, restoring Elminster’s full powers. Then his reflection blinked! IAmTheMeat. Pug vs Harry Potter Merlin vs Kvothe Fizban vs Mazrim Taim Macros vs Gandolf Feel free to describe how the battle would take place. Post by Andragohn » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:34 pm. There any doubt? Related: 10 Tricks That'll Help You Playing D&D For the First Time. Each character is at the height of their power. W. Wolfwood2 Registered User. He eventually resorted to burglary and was caught robbing the home of Stonecloak, a powerful spellcaster. It was worse for Simbul who needed to feed off of magical items in order to stay sane. I never paid much attention to Dragonlance (please keep the insults and demands for my being burned at a stake to a minimum), but Raistlin seemed pretty wimpy physically, too. He set up shop in some small town to 'plug the cork' vs a Dark Threat To All The Realms. Merlin is from original Arthurian legend not Marvel. 13 years ago. Gandalf is an archangel, but that doesn't mean much. More importantly, they should do some Forgotten Realms movies one day. the Legion of Mortal Godlings. The Weave collapsed, and Elminster lost many of his abilities as a Chosen of Mystra. Artist-Azar. Well, first of all, Gandalf just doesn't have the sex appeal of Sam Neill! Merlin vs. Gandalf This Fight Suggested By: Joao Camilo, The Big Bad W0lf Robin, RiggsAntor, Dr. Elminster's patron died, and he's now essentially powerless. It was originally created by author and game designer Ed Greenwood as a setting for his own stories, but after he discovered D&D he adapted it to the game system. He can portray himself as a trickster, a ra… He set up shop in some small town to 'plug the cork' vs a Dark Threat To All The Realms. The rich text editor does not work with JavaScript switched off. They are a fan-favorite class that allow players to enjoy the fantasy of being an all-knowing, fireball hurling, master of the arcane, but on … He was tortured by devils and subjected to acts of utter brutality until Mystra was able to hear Elminster’s plight. Gandalf the Grey, as he is known through most of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy, is the epitome of a wizened old wizard – possibly owing to Merlin’s influence and possibly influencing Elminster’s appearance as well. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. Rand vs. Gandalf? In a flash of brilliant light the phantasm of the mirror appears in front of … He was taught many lessons, including Mystra turning him into a woman in order to gain a greater understanding of the world and a stronger connection to the Weave. He trained some of the great and famous wizards of yore - the Seven Sisters, the mad necromancer who founded The Cult of the Dragon, Khelben Blackstaff (well, maybe not him). Yoda vs. Gandalf vs. Dumbledore vs. Brom from eragon This topic is locked from further discussion. They meet in a pocket plane. "Doppelganger!" However, his body was destroyed by Manshoon, the leader of his old foes, the Zhentarim. The Sidekick UA Spellcaster is somebody that studied under Gandalf/Elminster/Insert whatever higher tier variant which would be represented by its ability to reach up to 9th level spells. You could argue that this is soft magic (and in some ways it is), but it has hard rules and has to obey physics. There was something different in the eyes, something foreign. View Full Version : Voldemort vs Gandalf (or other wizards) Scuba_Ben. It's a bit like comparing Gandalf with Dumbledore. 67% Upvoted. Elminster has literally been to hell and back. Artist-Azar. OptimusPrime - Member. I finally completed reading the Harry Potter series last night. In 1479 DR, he set out to find a cure for his love. He spent years serving as a priestess of Mystra, calling herself Elmara. Jim Butcher's wizards do magic by imagining a thing and making said thing real by pouring magic energy into it with their will. Elminster’s soul was preserved, but it took Simbul sacrificing her life and the last of her energy to restore Elminster’s physical form. Name Something you've created: The need for a library devoted to cataloguing all the things I've created. Now Elminster again, he sought to return to his home to free it of the magelords. Mystra was eventually reincarnated through a wizard named Midnight, restoring Elminster's power. Wondering what it was about it that bothered him. It was originally created by author and game designer Ed Greenwood as a setting for his own stories, but after he discovered D&D he adapted it to the game system. Created by author and Forgotten Realms designer Ed Greenwood, Elminster was introduced in 1985. Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? He sat on the ruling council which formed the Harpers, a secretive order of spellcasters who seek to prevent the abuse of magic. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Next Last. You call me sir. D. dead First Post. So prepare your forbidden books and steadily growing beards, magic fans, as we at Screen Rant ask Dumbledore Vs. Gandalf: Who's the Better Wizard? THE SCENARIO . Validated User. Puffs of smoke rings chased one another above his head forming a chain before dissipating. Donate. Elminster escaped with his life, taking his grandfather’s broken sword as his only keepsake from home. However, Elminster's background is significantly different from that of Gandalf. It’s really a tough question since there are so many “versions” of them. May 6, 2010 #2 Yyrkoon would be near the top I think. Unbeknown to Elminster, the magister was an agent of Mystra, and she wanted the young man to become a wizard. Serious. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Since its inception, Dungeons & Dragons has prominently featured wizards and the powerful magic they weave. Jan 5, 2017. smallhorses. R. Rallan My Hat Of d02. The best part of the 10th Anniversary of DDO...the description on the Oatmeal Raisin Kookie, "From a distance you thought this was a chocolate chip kookie. approach to this. Submit Templates; Contact Us; FAQ; Legal & Policies Dumbledore and Ganondorf are right out. They are a fan-favorite class that allow players to enjoy the fantasy of being an all-knowing, fireball hurling, master of the arcane, but on Toril, the world of the popular Forgotten Realms setting, there is no wizard more legendary than Elminster Aumar, the Sage of Shadowdale. 1 of 2 Go to page. Merlin is a cambion, basically a demi-demon. Nov 23, 2014. He was created by Ilúvatar before the Music of the Ainur, and was at the beginning of Time amongst the Ainur who entered into Eä. Battle for magical supremacy on modern day earth. Despite Elthryn’s desire to remain uninvolved, he and his wife Amrythale were slain by the evil mage lord, Undarl. KEEP READING: Baldur's Gate 3 Demo Teases a Triumphant Return, Ari David is pretty amazing. Fate had other plans for Elminster, and after years of adventures, he found himself visited by the goddess, Mystra. ... Elminster. Mario and Sonic, Alien and Predator, Terminator and Robocop, Batman and Superman, Picard and Kirk, Elminster and Raistlin, Darth Vader and Seven of Nine, Gandalf and Merlin, Bahamut and Tiamat, Splinter and Shredder, Bond and Phelps, Trebek and Sajak, McGwire and Sosa, Shaq and Jordan, Kerrigan and Harding, Leno and Letterman, Cronkite and Brokaw, and Windows and Macintosh. Elminster 204 Votes. Gandalf's magic isn't even a close match to Rand channeling the OP. Elminster VS Szass Tam This Rumble ended on 2003-01-25 00:00:00.0. No way. In looks, sure. Myrjala revealed herself to have been Mystra in disguise all along, there to test him. Each of them has access to his signature items (for Raistlin, this means: The Staff of Magius, the Dragon Orb and the Dagger of Magius), but nothing else. Each of them has access to his signature items (for Raistlin, this means: The Staff of Magius, the Dragon Orb and the … Over 1,200 years old as of Fifth Edition, Elminster has experienced his share of victories and tragedies across more lifetimes than most beings could understand. If you like our work, please support us. He's a shapeshifter, and may be prophetic. elminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,186. Elminster continues to be active in the 1490s, the era currently explored in D&D’s Fifth Edition, helping Toril recover from the ravages of the Spellplague and fending off the evil that would harm the world he calls home. Elminster is (maybe was) a Chosen of Mystra.He is magically old old old. May 6, 2010 #3 Karsa Orlong may well be the biggest fantasy badass ever. Elminster I'd really like to be able to make an Elminster / Gandalf type of human Arch-Mage wielding a staff that's not a gimp, flavor build. Elminster 204 Votes. On the understanding of hard vs soft magic, it depends. Sauron vs Thoth-amon? 317 Votes. Second of all, Merlin hangs around dreamboats like Lancelot (purr!) Pug vs Harry Potter Merlin vs Kvothe Fizban vs Mazrim Taim Macros vs Gandolf Feel free to describe how the battle would take place. … Then Gandalf strides in, points out that fourth edition spell-slingers are pussies, stares them all down at once while they cry home to mama. He was starring at his reflection. But every day I will advance one side. Being one of the wisest of the Maiar, Gandalf originally started life as a Maia of Irmo the Dream-Master in addition to Nienna the Weeper, Manwe the Wind-King and Vara the Star-Queen. They are the famed wizards Merlin and Gandalf. RELATED: Dungeons & Dragons Does Greek Mythology In Magic: The Gathering Theros Crossover. In the early hours of Hammer 1, 1372 DR, Elminster entered the portal and narrowly managed to close it, but at the expense of much of his magical strength. Reply. Eventually, he was shown the magic to alter his form by a wizard named Myrjala. Sorvan76 Member Posts: 76. Belit vs Red Sonja (Oh, my)? Strictly by your votes. She taught him of the Weave, the invisible threads that make magic possible in the Forgotten Realms. Elminster, the Sage of Shadowdale, is a legendary figure in the lore of Dungeons & Dragons, and he's much more than a simple copy of Gandalf. This Rumble ended on 2003-02-15 00:00:00.0. Reply. My bet is on Rand vs. Aslan...Savior vs. Savior...ha ha. Sorry, but if anyone's gonna teach this girl some new tricks, it's gonna be Merlin. P. PrinceYyrkoon Retired User. Go. When Mystra was killed for trying to return to the heavens, it left Elminster powerless for a time. Information. - Winston S. Churchill 07-02-2004, 02:06 PM #8: Cerek the Barbaric. Name: Elminster Favorite Spell: Seduce Mystra Arch-Enemy: I'm too powerful to have enemies. Joined Oct 1, 2010 Messages 1,611. That was Aerowin, Steven Tyler's daughter. Elminster Aumar (Dungeons & Dragons) Hellboy; History . Pools of Darkness; Risen; Risen 2: Dark Waters; Secret of the Silver Blades; Space Siege; Star Wars: KotOR; Star Wars: KotOR II; System Shock 2; Temple of Elemental Evil And this picture alone is legitimate proof that Elminster is indeed Gandalf's Ultimate Imitator, something more people need to come to realize. Elminster, the Sage of Shadowdale, is a legendary figure in the lore of Dungeons & Dragons, and he's much more than a simple copy of Gandalf. May 6, 2010 #3 Be they Gandalf, Elminster, Skywalker, Valen, Superman etc etc etc. He tried to survive as a bandit and cutthroat, but found himself disliking the notion of killing. Venage237's wall > Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? A one-stop shop for all things video games. RELATED: The Most Powerful Wizards In The Harry Potter Universe, Ranked. Reply. 29, 2009 In 1372 DR, he sealed himself behind a portal to the Nine Hells so he could prevent hordes of devils from entering Toril and wreaking havoc. Plotting and planning - playing a long, protracted, chess-like game against one another. Validated User. Knights of Neraka vs. Knights who say Ni. Azzy Newtype. Who would emerge the victor if these two legendary mages fought it out? Fascinated with the manifestation, Gandalf reaches down to touch the surface of the pool. His father Elthryn was one of the seven sons of Uthgrael Aumar who had left the palace intrigues to settle in the nearby village of Heldon, where he served as its lord. Long time D&D fans may remember the Elminster series and what he was like as a wizard. The Sidekick UA Spellcaster is somebody that studied under Gandalf/Elminster/Insert whatever higher tier variant which would be represented by its ability to reach up to 9th level spells. Elminster Aumar (born in 212 DR) is a fictional character in the Dungeons & Dragons-based Forgotten Realms setting. Belit vs Red Sonja (Oh, my)? Nobody knows what he's capable of except in a few brief moments when he starts casting his crazy spells to jam doorways, set the forest ablaze with eldritch fire, duel the balrog, etc. Elminster Aumar battles fiends in the Nine Hells, by Matthew Stawicki. 6 comments. He fits the same mold as Dumbledore or Obi-Wan Kenobi -- burdened with wisdom and responsibility, yet charming, and possessing a surprisingly good sense of humor. But not so prophetic that he could see that teaching a cute young thing all of his magic would lead to his death. Nov 19, 2020 #20 Elminster looks in confusion at the man before him. He rarely reveals the full extent of his true nature to anyone who is not an extremely close friend. Alternatively, we imagine the learned, book bound, intelligent mastermind who always has a spell to help or hinder in any situation. In looks, sure. the wizards scream in unison and unleash their magic against the other. For at lease one simple reason - Dumbledore, powerful as he was, still share the same weakness literally ALL Harry Potter universe characters have: They relies on their wands too much - even Voldemort. This seems like such a traditional arch-type in D&D, that I'm surprised this hasn't already been done. Antvasima (talk) 08:55, October 31, 2018 (UTC) Darth_Tyrev. For nearly a hundred years, Elminster lived like this, growing bitter. He trained some of the great and famous wizards of yore - the Seven Sisters, the mad necromancer who founded The Cult of the Dragon, Khelben Blackstaff (well, maybe not him). Impressed by Elminster, she asked him to be one of her Chosen -- an immortal being imbued with incredible power over the Weave. RELATED: Dungeons & Dragons: Exploring Chult, the Dinosaur-Filled Jungle. Gandalf leaned heavily on his staff staring into the magical reflecting pool. chris777 Registered User. Click the button below to start this article in quick view. He was present for the Time of Troubles, which saw the gods walk the world of Toril and wage war with each other. If there is a wizard show down, it should be Ged vs. Gandalf vs. Polgara; one big three-way match ;) May 6, 2010 #2 Yyrkoon would be near the top I think. She sent Halaster Blackcloack, the Mad Mage of Undermountain into the Nine Hells, but he was defeated. ... Like Gandalf in LotR. The rich text editor does not work with JavaScript switched off. That's a rough breakdown of the advantages each mage has in the conflict. Antvasima (talk) 08:55, October 31, 2018 (UTC) I'm also completely ignoring TV and movies, and sticking to written sources. Mystra's Chosen > All. A natural storyteller, Elminster is normally a witty, clever, and very charming man. Gandalf the Grey is a wizard character from a fantasy novel Hobbit written in 1937 by J.R.R.Tolkein, an English professor of Oxford University. BOBBY: My name is Robert De Loungville. His backstory and further adventures have been explored in a series of novels from creator Ed Greenwood, starting with Elminster: The Making of a Mage in 1994, and continuing to appear in 13 novels over the decades. Okay, it's the battle you all waited for: Elminster of Shadowdale vs Raistlin Majere.We use the D20/D&D 3E versions of them. May 6, 2010 #4 The annoying "comedy … Gandalf or Saruman are two examples that we often see within the game. Over the next thousand years, Elminster was involved in many of the world-changing events that occurred on Toril. Name Something you've created: The need for a library devoted to cataloguing all the things I've created. RPG Crossing Home: Forums: Create An Account! 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